I don't know what your specific background is, but I think Americans tend to be more expressive with both positive and negative emotions. [37], After over a hundred junior disciples, including Jin Ling, are kidnapped and taken to the Burial Mounds, Jiang Cheng leads a second siege against the Yiling Patriarch. [45], Jiang Cheng then turns his anger towards Jin Guangyao, especially after Jin Guangyao admits he had sent Jin Zixuan to the confrontation on Qiongqi Path, although Jin Guangyao maintains that he had not intended for Wei Wuxian to kill Jin Zixuan. ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} In the untamed Jiang Cheng killed him by pushing him off the cliff. Wei Ying states this repeatedly to.someone lol Soooo if he did indeed lose the will to live and took measures to ensure his death, or was just satisfied with being dead, how was he summoned back? . ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}.icon._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;vertical-align:middle;padding-right:8px}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} WE as the audience know WWX's thought, motivations and how he was set up/led into certain senerios. The Yunmeng Jiang Sect was obliterated. He hates himself for not living up to what his mother wanted him to be what he thinks his father wanted, he hates himself for not being able to be what WWX represents. No "Do you need any help, or just some silent company?" I like to think that after the ending (post-canon), with many years having gone by, that maybe they could settle the past with time,, leave it there since it can't be changed, and care for each other as the last of their family, but probably not as close siblings that they once were. I think their relationship is much more complex than defining it into the binary of love and hate. And thats why he told xue Yang confidently that he wont be able to bring him back. So use WWX's ages at signficant events. This is what wei wuxian meant when he said a soul that no longer wants to be in this world. Wei Wuxian did have a gap in his memory in between using the seal in the battle of the nightless city and returning to the bottom of the Burial Mound, but he could remember what happened after . As a child, Jiang Cheng has three puppies named "Jasmine," "Princess," and "Love." However, after Wei Wuxian is brought to live at Lotus Pier around age nine or ten, Jiang Cheng's puppies are sent . But once he was done talking to Lan Qiren, his . He was envious of WWX, and jealous of LWJ and the Wen remnants. It must've been suicide. Obviously Madame Yu is a huge contributor of friction - what with physically dragging Jiang Cheng between her and So I think he still loves WWX in the way that people love their siblings no matter what. [38] After Su She was revealed to have sealed their power with altered music, following the instructions of Jin Guangyao, Jiang Cheng began to learn that Wei Wuxian was not at fault this time. Although Jiang Cheng often lectures Wei Wuxian for his provocative behavior in the hopes of curbing his wild antics, his efforts are typically in vain. after the golden core reveal, he can no long justify his reasons for hating wwx. You see the piece come loose. ._3oeM4kc-2-4z-A0RTQLg0I{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between} After seeing that Wei Wuxian is determined to restore the consciousness of Wen Ning's Fierce Corpse, he and Wei Wuxian quarrel more, until Wei Wuxian insists on leaving the Yunmeng Jiang Clan to protect them from trouble. This would change NOTHING. I think by the end, they went forward in the right direction to mend their relationship. But the most compelling for it to be suicide is that Wei wuxian himself made it clear to Xue Yang that a soul who has no desire to be in this world cannot be summoned back. Currently, the original novel by MXTX ( | M Xing Tng Xi) has been adapted into a donghua, manhua, audio drama and live action! Jiang Cheng: the backstory. The truth is more like whole books being brought up from their hiding . In the untamed Jiang Cheng killed him by pushing him off the cliff. MXTX, can't you just throw me a bone here? After finding everything out its clear he wouldnt have wanted to fight anymore because he had nothing left to fight for and he only ever fought for others anyway, never himself, yet everyone he knew or would fight for turned against him. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. He captures him and keeps Fairy close while he interrogates him. When Jin Ling attempts to stay, Jiang Cheng throws him to the ground and runs back into the cave himself. Jiang Cheng. That's why he suffered so much. JC is also the youngest Sect Leader of the time, technically untested. It all started with a letter from Gusu, asking for the hand of the YunMeng Omega in marriage. The caveat to that is, love is not enough to stay together or to get along. Absolutely. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works Wang Zhuocheng (adult)Huang Zhenchen (child), snd lit. The two get off to a rocky start, as Wei Wuxian is terrified of dogs, and Jiang Cheng is forced to get rid of his pets for his new brother. What if he realised he was so alone and then comited suicide. JC is a Sect Leader. Jiang Cheng was born the second child of Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian. (Probably the price of destroying the Stygian Amulet). Web Series The part where jin Guangyao captured them all and he was just confessing his love for lanzhan was cringey at best. Very interesting! This then proceeded to be the only time they talked about their feelings lmao sure maybe they wont talk about the sacrifices theyve made for the other person, thats consistent with their characters, but really? Besides I don't know what to think about this falling scene. Known as the Yiling Patriarch (, Ylng Loz), Wei Wuxian died in the First Siege of the Burial Mounds thirteen years prior to the start of the Novel. Read chapter 15: please help me from the story i time Travelled by MaissaBiaa (Marinette Cheng) with 3,244 reads. When Wen Ning asked WWX about Jiang Cheng, he said it wasn't JC who killed him. " Like Lan Xichen and Lan Wangji are the Twin Jades of Gusu, so they will be the Twin Prides of Yunmeng. BUT it is mention in one of the versions, probably the animation. When one of them dies before the other at the age of eighty-three, leaving the other to mourn, the one remaining, waits to be reunited with his love. He also suggests that she ask Wei Wuxian to choose a courtesy name for her future son. I didn't feel it was "bad writting" or disappointing. [39], As more corpses approached, Jin Ling wished for Jiang Cheng to comfort him, but the closest Jiang Cheng came was giving his nephew Zidian, much like his mother had given it once to him. [33] But when Jin Ling is nearly killed by the Heavenly Maiden, Jiang Cheng berates him for not calling for help. ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Jiang Yanli (, Jing Ynl) was the elder sister of Jiang Cheng and the elder sworn sister of Wei Wuxian. Yunmeng Jiang [16], Jiang Cheng uses Zidian to strangle Wen Zhuliu and defends Wei Wuxian from the appalled Lan Wangji. JC has always been envious of WWX because of the perceived favour he held in his fathers eyes and because of the poisoning his mother subjected him to. He locks his new martial brother out of their room and threatens to send dogs after him, prompting Wei Wuxian to flee. In the second part, they are adults, and they don't realize that they may be in danger (Jin GuangYao and the Jin sect in general is much more insidious than the Wen sect). She embraces Jiang Cheng, appoints him the owner of the weapon, and requests that Wei Wuxian promise to protect Jiang Cheng with his life. I have to say that Suzerain Jiang is like a complex of contradictions. Probably a little scratch would do. I think I also saw it in some fan theories, but I believe it makes a lot of sense JC just basically being mad jealous that his brother would first go to some shit hole and Gusu than to Yunmeng To all of that, WWX doesn't seem to be sorry or wanting to apologise to him and JC is putting all the fault for Jiang sect struggles on WWX. three poisons; a Buddhist phrase for the root of all turmoil (greed, anger, ignorance) shngshu skilled practitioner, Jiang Cheng was born the second child of Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian. [13], After the death of Jin Guangyao, Jiang Cheng takes Zidian to Golden Carp Tower to ensure that Jin Ling will inherit the position as clan leader of the Lanling Jin Clan. They have no weapons, they are being led to an underground cavethey were all children, including her own son, her sworn sister's son who would have been her daughters future husband. thats why they turned on him 3. WWX thinks if LWJ continues to hold on, they will both fall so he uses that moment to rip his arm out of LWJ's grip. I need to know if they'll be okay! When he attempts to sneak back inside, he is caught by Lan Wangji. ._2ik4YxCeEmPotQkDrf9tT5{width:100%}._1DR1r7cWVoK2RVj_pKKyPF,._2ik4YxCeEmPotQkDrf9tT5{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}._1DR1r7cWVoK2RVj_pKKyPF{-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center;max-width:100%}._1CVe5UNoFFPNZQdcj1E7qb{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:4px}._2UOVKq8AASb4UjcU1wrCil{height:28px;width:28px;margin-top:6px}.FB0XngPKpgt3Ui354TbYQ{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-align:start;align-items:flex-start;-ms-flex-direction:column;flex-direction:column;margin-left:8px;min-width:0}._3tIyrJzJQoNhuwDSYG5PGy{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;width:100%}.TIveY2GD5UQpMI7hBO69I{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;color:var(--newRedditTheme-titleText);white-space:nowrap;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis}.e9ybGKB-qvCqbOOAHfFpF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;width:100%;max-width:100%;margin-top:2px}.y3jF8D--GYQUXbjpSOL5.y3jF8D--GYQUXbjpSOL5{font-weight:400;box-sizing:border-box}._28u73JpPTG4y_Vu5Qute7n{margin-left:4px} Jiang Wanyin did not like to think about the nature of the two men's relationship, but he could not deny that nowadays Lan Wangji was the closest person to his former brother. [13], Jiang Cheng is taken back to the Lotus Pier, where Wen Chao has him tortured and beaten. Because WWX gave his golden core to JC without a doubt, without questioning a thing. Although he does acknowledge his fault in everything, it's kind of glossed over and it seems like most of the fandom chooses to ignore it. [43] He forces Jiang Cheng to pull the sealed sword from its sheath and reveals that Wei Wuxian had given Jiang Cheng his Golden Core. Wei Wuxian pushes him aside and strikes Jin Zixuan first, and was sent home from the Cloud Recesses as a result. Wei Ying also explained in the anime last episode S3 that even Madame Yu was strict, she never do anything that would harm WWX, same like how JC do to WWX. But its not fairy tale love and theyre going to be tense with each other. Also, I understand it's tiresome to write about so many characters, and try insert it into the narrative. [25] Accordingly, Jiang Cheng's and Jin Guangshan's clans fight the most in the battle,[26] during which cultivators also slaughter the the Qishan Wen Clan remnants under Wei Wuxian's protection. Why do I have to feel like Im a fucking clown all these years?! so to me it seems very clear that wei wuxian committed suicide after having lost his yiling family, already feeling guilt from inadvertently getting his shidi killed on the battlefield and then finding out his best friend and sworn brother was leading the charge against him personally and ready to kill everyone at burial mounds, including him. But i agree he did not seem to want to live anymore after Jiang Yanli died, overwhelming him with grief. The author gives the readers closure when we are told that Jiang Cheng did not disobey Wei Wuxian's order to stay put for the sake . In order to fix what happened to Jiang Cheng, Wei Wuxian does something which no one could do. At Nightless City, JYL came to see him, thus putting herself in danger and shoving WWX out of the way and took a death blow for him. 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The debt between Wei Wuxian and the Jiang Sect is wiped clean - this outstanding transaction of their relationship ended - everyone goes on their . She died for this dude and you're leading a siege against him? [15], When Jiang Cheng returns down the mountain, he cannot find Wei Wuxian, who has been caught by Wen Chao. He uses Zidian in an attempt to expel Wei Wuxian's soul, though the technique fails because Wei Wuxian's soul has not actually possessed Mo Xuanyu's body. He has a bad temper from his youth, and his father treats him distantly, holding him fewer than five times that he can remember. [1], Afraid his father will find out and dislike him even more, Jiang Cheng recruits his elder sister Jiang Yanli to find Wei Wuxian. Unable to sleep their first night, Wei Wuxian slips away from the Cloud Recesses to purchase the renowned wine Emperor's Smile. He took the Wen Reminants, a political move JC literally cannot protect him from, thus forcing them to stay apart even though WWX swore many times to always be by his side. He then reveals that he has brought Wei Wuxian's flute Chenqing and tosses it to him. Yeah actually you got a point I mean if i hated someone for doing something for 13 years then i knew he didnt do it, itd still be hard for me to be normal toward them again. Everyone is ultimately saved by the fierce corpses of the remnants of the Qishan Wen Clan killed during the First Siege. When Wei Wuxian died, it had only been nearly three months (Chapter 79) after Lan Wangji hid Wei Wuxian in the cave, fought 33 Lan sect elders and was subsequently punished severely. Two ghostly figures dancing in the distance by BlueLion20. But Ning knows no life nor undeath except to be at Wuxian's side. Remember that at the very end, he wanted to tell WWX about how he also made an unspoken sacrifice, how he hadn't run off to seek revenge, but had run out to distract the Wens from WWX. Jiang Cheng runs up to him. [ I haven't read the novel but the English version is being released next month so I'll read it then ]. As a skilled doctor, Wen Qing treats Jiang Cheng but requests that they leave quickly, lest she fall under suspicion. A subreddit dedicated to fans, by fans, of all versions and adaptations of Mo Dao Zu Shi! According to various people in the novel including Wei Wuxian, he died because his powers backfired, and he was ripped to pieces by his corpses as a result, but nobody ever says that it happened when he destroyed the Stygian Tiger Seal. He seemed quite shook that it did nothing, iirc. Height Yilin Patriarch Wei Wuxian died in the battle with three biggest clans happened in No Night City. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. To his dismay, Yu Ziyuan orders the doors closed. Yes, what WWX was morally just, but it basically spelled his doom and the doom of the barely hanging on at the time Yunmeng Jiang Sect. He is interrupted, however, by Jin Ling, who lies about seeing Wen Ning. Names Or if he were then we didnt see enough development to lead to that. I'm glad someone brought these things up. In the original novel : WWX actually commit suicide. But then why would he try to exorcise Wei Wuxian's spirit by using Zidian on Mo Xuanyu? After Xiao Xingchen found out that he was tricked by Yang into killing his own best friend, Xiao slit his own throat. Jiang Cheng is unconcerned with dark technique so long as the user kills their shared enemies. However, Jin Guangshan suggests that Wei Wuxian has insulted Jiang Cheng, playing on Jiang Cheng's insecuritites. Now that's all the numbers of reasons I think Jiang Cheng wronged Wei Wuxian and others mainly because he was choosing to look the other way or because he was acting like a spoiled brat. He follows his Wei Wuxian to the ancestral hall of their clan and confronts Wei Wuxian about his role in the deaths of Jiang Fengmian, Yu Ziyuan, and Jiang Yanli, as well as his relationship with Lan Wangji. I think his strongest feeling was jealousy and envy which was influenced from his mom. [16], Jiang Cheng leads his cultivators to hunt Wen Chao and Wen Zhuliu while Lan Wangji returns to Gusu to analyze the strange talismans they have found. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works jiangfengmian; jinsect; jiangcheng +14 more # 13. . So maybe you can try that? When it comes to how the novel addresses WWX's darker emotions, part of me wonders if there are likecontextual or cultural things that get lost in translation? In fact, that's the whole nexus for JGS's plan. Lan Zhang doesn't know how he died in the donghua. But out of the two of them, it's JC that bears the brunt of the damage WWX causes, politically. Point is, I think, he knew the other dudes he was torturing were not WWX, so he just used them as dummies for his little anger problems, and when he saw WWX resurrected and shameless ofc he just wanted to release his anger, that's why he patted him gently on the back with Zidian. "[45] However, eventually Jiang Cheng begins to weep bitterly that Wei Wuxian had not told him. Jiang Yanli also makes lotus root pork ribs soup for Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian. I think he probably hated WWX for a while, at the height of their enmity after JYL died. Even if JC shouted that to the whole world, it wouldn't matter simply because WWX blindly gave his golden core to JC. According to Wen Chao, Jiang Cheng screamed and pled for his core, but his captors did not care. JC has a lot to process, a lot to swallow. The aithorbdoes establish early on that WWX has a personality type where he doesn't really dwell on past struggles, sp it may be frustrating for the reader, but it's not necessarily inconsistent. Jiang Yanli ran all the way over to the battlefield (unarmed), and she was injured but nothing too serious, she told Wei Wuxian to stop fightingwhen a mob is around them who would definitely attack should that happen, but she was grieving and Wei Wuxian too wasn't in the right mindset, the moment he stopped someone immediately tried to kill him, she saw that and pushed him out of the way and was killed, and Jiang Cheng saw all of this happen, he has no reason to blame it on Wei Wuxian. I mean, u could say that WWX wanted to die and the only thing that kept him up was LWJ grabbing his hand. Previously:Qinghen. Jiang cheng and wei wuxian's complicated relationship; Summary. He was especially ticked off when his sister Jiang Yanli was killed when trying to protect Wei Wuxian, the result of which left him with no blood relatives anymore. Not even lan zhan could reach his spirit. Sure they won't be like before. Then he thinks WWX killed and did lots of wrong things. He probably turned against himself with guilt by that point. It may not be something everyone feels would be accurate. Male Someone here has a theory that Nie Huaisang saves and locks Wei WuXian's soul in secret. Manhua Most of the fandom seems to be fine with everything I mentioned above and I wondered if I was going crazy lol. It would be hard to not resent WWX after all that, and theres definitely some complex emotions between the two of them. Press J to jump to the feed. Also wei wuxian refuses to answer when asked what happened. He is struck once with the Discipline Whip on his chest, and Wen Zhuliu melts his Golden Core. [10][11], Jiang Cheng is injured when Wen Zhuliu intervenes, and Wang Lingjiao sends off a signal for the Qishan Wen Clan to attack. felt like hitting the hornets nest today OP? [21], However, once Jiang Yanli becomes engaged to Jin Zixuan, Jiang Cheng helps his sister sneak into Yiling to show Wei Wuxian her wedding robes. He offends his third prospective bride, Rong Yan, by telling her that she wears unsuitable colors and that her perfume is like a noxious poison. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} He is Wuxian and this is his game. Calm down. Audio Drama "Wei Wuxian, what are you trying to do?" "That's kind of you, Clan Leader Jin, but I won't sit. he just feels like a clown now. Lan Zhang also said that he looked for clues in the Nightless City and found out that the zombies didn't actually backfire on him.